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Two Groups, One Theme: Oliver and Otto Edition

Postby Neel Mehta » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:57 am

I tried this format in the past with columns and pictures, but while the Internet is forever, image hosting is not. Let's try an all-text, smartphone-friendlier version.

I have generated a list of full-length feature films (no documentaries) and divided them into two groups. I have removed the titles of these films, but provide years of release, directors, and stars.

As you can tell, something happened on November 3, 2017 that prompted this thread.


Group A

1954, dir. Marco Camerini, stars Kirk Douglas
1991, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Kevin Costner
1995, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Anthony Hopkins
1998, dir. Peter Weir, stars Jim Carrey
2000, dir. David Gordon Green, stars Donald Holden
2008, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Josh Brolin
2012, dir. Steven Spielberg, stars Daniel Day-Lewis
2017, dir. Rob Reiner, stars Woody Harrelson (released 11/3)

Group B

1944, dir. Otto Preminger, stars Gene Tierney
1959, dir. Otto Preminger, stars Dorothy Dandridge
1977, dir. Fred Zinnemann, stars Vanessa Redgrave
1994, dir. Adam Bernstein, stars Julia Sweeney
1998, dir. Farrelly Brothers, stars Cameron Diaz
2001, dir. Sandra Nettelbeck, stars Martina Gedeck
2016, dir. Pablo Larrain, stars Natalie Portman
2017, dir. Greta Gerwig, stars Saoirse Ronan (released 11/3)

Each film in Group A corresponds with exactly one film in Group B, once you figure out the theme. Match them up.

Can you think of any other pairs?
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Re: Two Groups, One Theme: Oliver and Otto Edition

Postby gwynn1984 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:24 am

The 11/3/17 happening is an amazing coincidence. And boy did the Group B film outdo its Group A counterpart in critical and financial terms (at least on a per screen basis).
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Re: Two Groups, One Theme: Oliver and Otto Edition

Postby rockgolf » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:53 am

I may be the first one to have the penny drop when I read "Julia Sweeney".
Very clever and a nice 11/3 coincidence discovery.
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Re: Two Groups, One Theme: Oliver and Otto Edition

Postby Neel Mehta » Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:37 am

It's been a week, and gwynn1984 and rockgolf seem to have it.

The answer:

Spoiler: show
Group A contains a list of 8 films whose titles reference a specific U.S. President. Group B has 8 films whose titles reference their corresponding First Ladies.

The pairs:

George Washington and Martha Washington
2000, dir. David Gordon Green, stars Donald Holden (George Washington)
2001, dir. Sandra Nettelbeck, stars Martina Gedeck (Mostly Martha)

Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln
2012, dir. Steven Spielberg, stars Daniel Day-Lewis (Lincoln)
1998, dir. Farrelly Brothers, stars Cameron Diaz (There's Something About Mary)

Ulysses S. Grant and Julia Grant
1954, dir. Marco Camerini, stars Kirk Douglas (Ulysses)
1977, dir. Fred Zinnemann, stars Vanessa Redgrave (Julia)

Harry Truman and Elizabeth "Bess" Truman
1998, dir. Peter Weir, stars Jim Carrey (The Truman Show)
1959, dir. Otto Preminger, stars Dorothy Dandridge (Porgy and Bess)

John F. Kennedy and Jacqueline "Jackie" Kennedy
1991, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Kevin Costner (JFK)
2016, dir. Pablo Larrain, stars Natalie Portman (Jackie)

Lyndon Johnson and Claudia "Lady Bird" Johnson
2017, dir. Rob Reiner, stars Woody Harrelson (LBJ, released 11/3)
2017, dir. Greta Gerwig, stars Saoirse Ronan (Lady Bird, released 11/3)

Richard Nixon and Thelma "Pat" Nixon
1995, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Anthony Hopkins (Nixon)
1994, dir. Adam Bernstein, stars Julia Sweeney (It's Pat: The Movie)

George W. Bush and Laura Bush
2008, dir. Oliver Stone, stars Josh Brolin (W.)
1944, dir. Otto Preminger, stars Gene Tierney (Laura)

Additional notes:

1. Martha Washington's maiden name is Dandridge.
2. Check out the Gangs of New York reunion.
3. Woody Harrelson made another 2017 film with a Presidential name: Wilson. (He plays a dude named Wilson, not the President or the volleyball.) I left it off because I couldn't find a famous movie with Edith in the title.
4. The future of Presidential movies is now! Actress Noël Wells wrote and directed a film called Mr. Roosevelt that opens this week, presumably in limited release. Unfortunately, it doesn't specify which Roosevelt.
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